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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 8850701" data-attributes="member: 1210"><p>The DMG isn't a setting.</p><p></p><p>If the setting is as bare-bones as 5e SJ is, yes, a tool falls to generate some details falls under my "minimum expectations" bar. If you aren't going to actually put details in the setting (which I think you absolutely should, as that's the whole point of having a setting), then a tool to generate details is the bare minimum that I think ought to be there.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think the gulf between what I expect from a setting and what you expect from a setting is pretty darn wide.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The DMG is still not a setting.</p><p></p><p>How about actually describing some of these kinds of things and their mechanics? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, it seems like what you are willing to accept as sufficient for a setting is pretty minimalistic. I want more. As I've said before, SJ5e isn't terrible, but it's a long way from good, at least to me.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If the meager amount of actual setting material in SJ5e is enough for you to be happy, great! But you are not going to persuade me that it's enough for me, because it really isn't. It's thin. I really expect some setting in my settings, and SJ5e gives me the equivalent of a thin broth instead of a meaty stew.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 8850701, member: 1210"] The DMG isn't a setting. If the setting is as bare-bones as 5e SJ is, yes, a tool falls to generate some details falls under my "minimum expectations" bar. If you aren't going to actually put details in the setting (which I think you absolutely should, as that's the whole point of having a setting), then a tool to generate details is the bare minimum that I think ought to be there. I think the gulf between what I expect from a setting and what you expect from a setting is pretty darn wide. The DMG is still not a setting. How about actually describing some of these kinds of things and their mechanics? Again, it seems like what you are willing to accept as sufficient for a setting is pretty minimalistic. I want more. As I've said before, SJ5e isn't terrible, but it's a long way from good, at least to me. If the meager amount of actual setting material in SJ5e is enough for you to be happy, great! But you are not going to persuade me that it's enough for me, because it really isn't. It's thin. I really expect some setting in my settings, and SJ5e gives me the equivalent of a thin broth instead of a meaty stew. [/QUOTE]
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