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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8855828" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Ah, so if it sells well and the next product sells well and the next product sells well, then it doesn't prove you wrong because by then they will have released OD&D and that will be why the other things are selling well, not because you are wrong. </p><p></p><p>Convenient.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wow, you met a thousand dungeon masters at the beach, and they all put up with your questions? All in the span of a half an hour, in December! </p><p></p><p>Oh, wait, no. You are just lying, Mr. I'm always honest and say what I mean. You didn't talk to those people. Meanwhile, I was recounting and counting the other Dungeon Masters I've played with in recent years, and recently enough that I know how they prepped. And they don't waste their time on forums, so they can't speak for themselves, and I don't think it is appropriate Internet decorum to just list other people by real and user name.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And really, this should be the end of the discussion. You can't even acknowledge that 5e has a version of spelljammer, because the only spelljammer is 2e spelljammer. So you refuse to let your biases sit to the side.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Lies by omission are still lies. Presenting your information in a way to invite misunderstandings is your responsibility.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, not all of them, just some of them. But how many? Two? Five? Twenty? How many bespoke ships with bespoke quarters laid out would be enough to make it the "real" spelljammer?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Go back and re-read it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>He doesn't know just about everything. He just knows a lot.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Who says the High Priest of Moradin knows less about Moradin's holy artifact? Oh, right, YOU are saying that. So YOU are making him more important. Like I said.</p><p></p><p>And, yes, you do send them. You send them when they ask "Hey, where can we learn more about this" or "Can I ask around and see who might know more" and I say "Well, there is the Temple of Moradin". I'm sending them in that direction, because they asked and they were able to figure out that is where the info is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Re-read what I said, I didn't say or imply that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8855828, member: 6801228"] Ah, so if it sells well and the next product sells well and the next product sells well, then it doesn't prove you wrong because by then they will have released OD&D and that will be why the other things are selling well, not because you are wrong. Convenient. Wow, you met a thousand dungeon masters at the beach, and they all put up with your questions? All in the span of a half an hour, in December! Oh, wait, no. You are just lying, Mr. I'm always honest and say what I mean. You didn't talk to those people. Meanwhile, I was recounting and counting the other Dungeon Masters I've played with in recent years, and recently enough that I know how they prepped. And they don't waste their time on forums, so they can't speak for themselves, and I don't think it is appropriate Internet decorum to just list other people by real and user name. And really, this should be the end of the discussion. You can't even acknowledge that 5e has a version of spelljammer, because the only spelljammer is 2e spelljammer. So you refuse to let your biases sit to the side. Lies by omission are still lies. Presenting your information in a way to invite misunderstandings is your responsibility. Sure, not all of them, just some of them. But how many? Two? Five? Twenty? How many bespoke ships with bespoke quarters laid out would be enough to make it the "real" spelljammer? Go back and re-read it. He doesn't know just about everything. He just knows a lot. Who says the High Priest of Moradin knows less about Moradin's holy artifact? Oh, right, YOU are saying that. So YOU are making him more important. Like I said. And, yes, you do send them. You send them when they ask "Hey, where can we learn more about this" or "Can I ask around and see who might know more" and I say "Well, there is the Temple of Moradin". I'm sending them in that direction, because they asked and they were able to figure out that is where the info is. Re-read what I said, I didn't say or imply that. [/QUOTE]
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