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<blockquote data-quote="sheadunne" data-source="post: 5511996" data-attributes="member: 27570">I'm just saying the thread you quoted was a year older than the errata. Official decisions are made. The only actual rules of the game are those printed in the rulebook and the errata, the rest is just house rules and there's nothing wrong with that. The designers are posting how they house rule the rules in their own games, hence his statement &quot;I'd certainly LET my players do that in games I run.&quot; Nowhere does he say that those are the official pathfinder rules, in fact, by saying &quot;let&quot; implies that they aren't official rules, otherwise there wouldn't be a question of letting someone do anything, they could just do it. Those comments that are official are added either to the errata or the FAQ, neither of which support using spring attack and vital attack together.But if you can tell me how a Full Round Action (spring attack) and a Standard action&nbsp; (vital strike) can be used in the same turn, I'd be happy to agree with you. I find nothing to contract this in any of the designers posts.What is interesting is that you can use Vital Strike and Flyby Attack, since Flyby Attack is a Standard Action and not a Full-Round Action.Anyway, like I said, it doesn't much matter, since myself and other often do allow it in our own games. It's not broken or overpowered. It's only a little more damage and not nearly as much as would be produced making a full-attack (assuming appropriate level to make additional attack).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sheadunne, post: 5511996, member: 27570"] I'm just saying the thread you quoted was a year older than the errata. Official decisions are made. The only actual rules of the game are those printed in the rulebook and the errata, the rest is just house rules and there's nothing wrong with that. The designers are posting how they house rule the rules in their own games, hence his statement "I'd certainly LET my players do that in games I run." Nowhere does he say that those are the official pathfinder rules, in fact, by saying "let" implies that they aren't official rules, otherwise there wouldn't be a question of letting someone do anything, they could just do it. Those comments that are official are added either to the errata or the FAQ, neither of which support using spring attack and vital attack together. But if you can tell me how a Full Round Action (spring attack) and a Standard action (vital strike) can be used in the same turn, I'd be happy to agree with you. I find nothing to contract this in any of the designers posts. What is interesting is that you can use Vital Strike and Flyby Attack, since Flyby Attack is a Standard Action and not a Full-Round Action. Anyway, like I said, it doesn't much matter, since myself and other often do allow it in our own games. It's not broken or overpowered. It's only a little more damage and not nearly as much as would be produced making a full-attack (assuming appropriate level to make additional attack). [/QUOTE]

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