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<blockquote data-quote="Odhanan" data-source="post: 3337554" data-attributes="member: 12324">I really like Star Wars d20. Overall, it's a great adaptation of the feel of the movies.I agree however with the criticisms of the VP/WP system. In my experience, it indeed has counterproductive effects on the heroic feel of the game and is less simple for newbies to RPGs to understand, sort of like a double-standard based on two abstract concepts. I also think that the multiple Force skills should be just one. You already don't have much Skill points either as a Guardian or Consular, but if you want to perform in the Force correctly, you have to invest almost all of them in Force Skills. And yet, the Jedi seem really not balanced with the other character classes. They seem way more powerful, so you end up with a lot of players who either want to play something else and end up frustrated sooner or later, or they play Jedi and you have a lot of them in the party. For some eras that may not be a problem, but for the variety of the game that may be damaging (not even speaking of the frustration of non Jedi players I just pointed out). It seems that the Saga edition due this year answers to all these criticisms. I can't wait for it. My only problem with what I've read about it so far is that there are less character classes overall. That bothers me, but if the system answers my personal issues with the Revised edition, I see no reason why we couldn't just import some classes from Revised to Saga so... we'll see when it's out ! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Odhanan, post: 3337554, member: 12324"] I really like Star Wars d20. Overall, it's a great adaptation of the feel of the movies. I agree however with the criticisms of the VP/WP system. In my experience, it indeed has counterproductive effects on the heroic feel of the game and is less simple for newbies to RPGs to understand, sort of like a double-standard based on two abstract concepts. I also think that the multiple Force skills should be just one. You already don't have much Skill points either as a Guardian or Consular, but if you want to perform in the Force correctly, you have to invest almost all of them in Force Skills. And yet, the Jedi seem really not balanced with the other character classes. They seem way more powerful, so you end up with a lot of players who either want to play something else and end up frustrated sooner or later, or they play Jedi and you have a lot of them in the party. For some eras that may not be a problem, but for the variety of the game that may be damaging (not even speaking of the frustration of non Jedi players I just pointed out). It seems that the Saga edition due this year answers to all these criticisms. I can't wait for it. My only problem with what I've read about it so far is that there are less character classes overall. That bothers me, but if the system answers my personal issues with the Revised edition, I see no reason why we couldn't just import some classes from Revised to Saga so... we'll see when it's out ! :) [/QUOTE]

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