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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 6774489" data-attributes="member: 59057">Hiding takes an action. Being hidden does not. You are arguing about one turn of taking an action to hide when there are no real time constraints. It is about 3 seconds you are arguing about.Bein invisible or in darkness does not make you hidden. Which is unseen and unheard. Invisibility makes it very easy to hide. Maybe give advantage because you only have to be silent. Remember that if someone becomes invisible right before you he should move, else his location is easy to guess.Also you leave footprints.However: if you are in a zone of silence or it is very noisy outside and the floor is made of stone with mo dust on it, I would give an auto success for not even trying to hide. Brcause it is imöossible to follow you.</blockquote>