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<blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 6716837" data-attributes="member: 413">I'm responding to what AaronOfBarbaria and others have said.&nbsp; According to them, if you want to cast concnetration spells Con should be your first or second highest stat and Concentration saves are easy to make and not a problem if you take feats and multiclass, etc and therefore no big deal.&nbsp; If your wizard doesn't have a 14 or better con, he is going to just suck.&nbsp; This is what has been said throughout this thread.&nbsp;&nbsp; What I am saying is that if that's true, then I think that indicates a problem.&nbsp; I think the goal of making Con useful has possibly been over achieved.Of coures I can house rule things. I can and sometimes do.&nbsp; But that's not what this conversation is about.&nbsp; People have dismissed the actual game table experiences of others by basically saying: well you're doing it wrong...if you want to cast buff spells on yourself then you should be a Mountain Dwarf with a 20 CON, wear armor and maybe dip into a level of cleric... I'm just pointing out that that seems a little extreme.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Uller, post: 6716837, member: 413"] I'm responding to what AaronOfBarbaria and others have said. According to them, if you want to cast concnetration spells Con should be your first or second highest stat and Concentration saves are easy to make and not a problem if you take feats and multiclass, etc and therefore no big deal. If your wizard doesn't have a 14 or better con, he is going to just suck. This is what has been said throughout this thread. What I am saying is that if that's true, then I think that indicates a problem. I think the goal of making Con useful has possibly been over achieved. Of coures I can house rule things. I can and sometimes do. But that's not what this conversation is about. People have dismissed the actual game table experiences of others by basically saying: well you're doing it wrong...if you want to cast buff spells on yourself then you should be a Mountain Dwarf with a 20 CON, wear armor and maybe dip into a level of cleric... I'm just pointing out that that seems a little extreme. [/QUOTE]

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