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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 2940427" data-attributes="member: 7808">I do not see a disagreement between the table and the text at all.  The text states that you use a melee attack as part of a Sunder, but not that you can Sunder as part of a melee attack.  This is clarified by the table.The fact that A is a part of B does not imply that B is a part of A.  A similar example would be to say that you can use a rope to make a knot.  However, any sailor will tell you that a rope sitting on a dock will not hold a boat at bay.  You need the knot, which is more complex, and differs in quite a few ways (including the amount of time to make).</blockquote>