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<blockquote data-quote="TYPO5478" data-source="post: 2948556" data-attributes="member: 37531">I thought the reason that we were having this conversation is that the RAW are not clear.&nbsp; I mean, they're clear about, say, Overrun being a standard action because they actually use the words &quot;standard&quot; and &quot;action&quot; (consecutively, in that order) in the entry for Overrun.&nbsp; Sunder's entry doesn't have either of them.&nbsp; It occurs to me that if the authors intended for Sunder to take a standard action, they would have included those words in the actual entry for the attack like all the others do (or don't, depending upon the action required).&nbsp; Which is the more likely typo: writing &quot;melee attack&quot; instead of &quot;standard action,&quot; or leaving a superscriped 7 out of a table entry?I don't see why not; he'll still take 8 attacks of opportunity from his opponents.&nbsp; Maybe, if he lives through it, he'll learn not to put himself in that situation.With my head cushioned on my Big Fat List of Things That Are More Broken Than Sunder Not Being a Standard Action instead of a pillow.So you've spent 4 feats and more than 3,000 gp to be able to attempt that attack when the situation presents itself.&nbsp; If it presents itself.&nbsp; Ugh, indeed.&nbsp; Just disarm him or stun him or, better yet, pelt him with magic.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TYPO5478, post: 2948556, member: 37531"] I thought the reason that we were having this conversation is that the RAW [I]are not[/I] clear. I mean, they're clear about, say, Overrun being a standard action because they actually use the words "standard" and "action" (consecutively, in that order) in the entry for Overrun. Sunder's entry doesn't have either of them. It occurs to me that if the authors intended for Sunder to take a standard action, they would have included those words in the actual entry for the attack like all the others do (or don't, depending upon the action required). Which is the more likely typo: writing "melee attack" instead of "standard action," or leaving a superscriped 7 out of a table entry? I don't see why not; he'll still take 8 attacks of opportunity from his opponents. Maybe, if he lives through it, he'll learn not to put himself in that situation. With my head cushioned on my Big Fat List of Things That Are More Broken Than Sunder Not Being a Standard Action instead of a pillow. So you've spent 4 feats and more than 3,000 gp to be able to attempt that attack when the situation presents itself. [I]If[/I] it presents itself. Ugh, indeed. Just disarm him or stun him or, better yet, pelt him with magic. [/QUOTE]

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