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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus2" data-source="post: 2951899" data-attributes="member: 11586">Are you suggesting that the only time you can make a melee attack is if you use a Standard Action?That doesn't make sense IMO.&nbsp; If you are saying Sunder takes a Standard Action, then it would work similar to Manyshot.&nbsp; Want to use Manyshot?&nbsp; Then use up your 1 Standard Action for the round and follow the instructions for Manyshot.&nbsp; Want to use Sunder?&nbsp; Then use up your 1 Standard Action for the round and follow the instructions for Sunder.How else would your version of Standard Action Sunder work?Well the fact that it specifically says it in the Grapple notes is irrelevant, because you can make multiple Trip and Disarm attempts, yet that is not specifically called out in the Trip and Disarm descriptions.&nbsp; The only commonality between Grapple and Trip/Disarm is that they both have footnote 7.&nbsp; And as I have suggested, if the table entry for Sunder is incorrect, it isn't going to have footnote 7 anyway.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RigaMortus2, post: 2951899, member: 11586"] Are you suggesting that the only time you can make a melee attack is if you use a Standard Action? That doesn't make sense IMO. If you are saying Sunder takes a Standard Action, then it would work similar to Manyshot. Want to use Manyshot? Then use up your 1 Standard Action for the round and follow the instructions for Manyshot. Want to use Sunder? Then use up your 1 Standard Action for the round and follow the instructions for Sunder. How else would your version of Standard Action Sunder work? Well the fact that it specifically says it in the Grapple notes is irrelevant, because you can make multiple Trip and Disarm attempts, yet that is not specifically called out in the Trip and Disarm descriptions. The only commonality between Grapple and Trip/Disarm is that they both have footnote 7. And as I have suggested, if the table entry for Sunder is incorrect, it isn't going to have footnote 7 anyway. [/QUOTE]

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