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Is Sunder a Standard Action or just something you can do any time you melee attack?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 2954306" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>Which is true - if you are taking the standard action, Attack, which allows you to make a single attack, then making an attack is a standard action. In the context in which it is located, the statement "Making an attack is a standard action" is true. But outside of that context, it is not always accurate.</p><p></p><p>If you are taking the full round action Charge, or the full round action Full Attack, making an attack is part of a full round action.</p><p></p><p>If an AoO is provoked, making an attack is not an action at all.</p><p></p><p>In the Player's Handbook, there are essentially five ways one can make a melee attack.</p><p></p><p>1. The Attack action, a standard action allowing a single melee (or ranged, or unarmed) attack.</p><p>2. The Charge action, a full round action allowing a single melee attack following a special move.</p><p>3. The Full Attack action, a full round action allowing one or more melee (or ranged, or unarmed) attacks.</p><p>4. The Attack of Opportunity, allowing a single melee attack against an opponent who performs certain actions in a threatened square, or leaves a threatened square.</p><p>5. The Sunder action, a standard action allowing a single melee attack with a slashing or bludgeoning weapon against an opponent's weapon or shield.</p><p></p><p>'Melee Attack' is not an action; it is something an action (or AoO) allows. Sometimes, it is the entirety of what that action allows; nevertheless, the two concepts are separate.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 2954306, member: 1656"] Which is true - if you are taking the standard action, Attack, which allows you to make a single attack, then making an attack is a standard action. In the context in which it is located, the statement "Making an attack is a standard action" is true. But outside of that context, it is not always accurate. If you are taking the full round action Charge, or the full round action Full Attack, making an attack is part of a full round action. If an AoO is provoked, making an attack is not an action at all. In the Player's Handbook, there are essentially five ways one can make a melee attack. 1. The Attack action, a standard action allowing a single melee (or ranged, or unarmed) attack. 2. The Charge action, a full round action allowing a single melee attack following a special move. 3. The Full Attack action, a full round action allowing one or more melee (or ranged, or unarmed) attacks. 4. The Attack of Opportunity, allowing a single melee attack against an opponent who performs certain actions in a threatened square, or leaves a threatened square. 5. The Sunder action, a standard action allowing a single melee attack with a slashing or bludgeoning weapon against an opponent's weapon or shield. 'Melee Attack' is not an action; it is something an action (or AoO) allows. Sometimes, it is the entirety of what that action allows; nevertheless, the two concepts are separate. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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