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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8609852" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Find three of them. </p><p></p><p>There are plenty of posts saying that people refuse to play race X with class y because they didn't get +1 in their chosen class - but I have seen precisely zero saying they needed +2</p><p></p><p>And this is because people will do things without a bonus - but doing things with a penalty is bad. And thanks to the way 5e is written if you have a +0 in your primary stat then you have a penalty.</p><p></p><p>This shows up in two areas.</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The non-variant human has +1 to all stats. Which means that if you do not have at least a +1 then you are below the human baseline</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">With standard array, point buy, and about half of all rolled characters having a +0 puts you an entire ability bonus behind a baseline non-variant human (or even variant human) in your main stat.</li> </ol><p>This means that a +0 is, both against baseline humans and against benchmarks the equivalent of having an outright penalty in older editions.</p><p></p><p>To put this in 3.5 terms, a 5e dwarf wizard both mechanically and thematically isn't the equivalent of a 3.5 dwarf wizard (with +0 Int) but a 3.5 dwarf sorcerer or bard (with -2 Cha). So they are rare.</p><p></p><p>When +1 is your baseline then +0 is a penalty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8609852, member: 87792"] Find three of them. There are plenty of posts saying that people refuse to play race X with class y because they didn't get +1 in their chosen class - but I have seen precisely zero saying they needed +2 And this is because people will do things without a bonus - but doing things with a penalty is bad. And thanks to the way 5e is written if you have a +0 in your primary stat then you have a penalty. This shows up in two areas. [LIST=1] [*]The non-variant human has +1 to all stats. Which means that if you do not have at least a +1 then you are below the human baseline [*]With standard array, point buy, and about half of all rolled characters having a +0 puts you an entire ability bonus behind a baseline non-variant human (or even variant human) in your main stat. [/LIST] This means that a +0 is, both against baseline humans and against benchmarks the equivalent of having an outright penalty in older editions. To put this in 3.5 terms, a 5e dwarf wizard both mechanically and thematically isn't the equivalent of a 3.5 dwarf wizard (with +0 Int) but a 3.5 dwarf sorcerer or bard (with -2 Cha). So they are rare. When +1 is your baseline then +0 is a penalty. [/QUOTE]
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