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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 8647096" data-attributes="member: 19857">Note that I don't suggest that people will consciously say that they like it - they may hate it but also hate any changes that you might make to the rules to mitigate against it.&nbsp; For example, a lot of 5 minute workday problems could be alleviated by getting rid of Vancian casting and switching spellcasting over to a skill check with backlash damage system that is used in other RPGs.&nbsp; But folks who play D&amp;D like Vancian casting and attempts to remove it from the game over the decades have always failed.&nbsp; My argument is basically that any changes you make to truly get rid of the 5 minute workday will be so radical that the game will no longer &quot;feel&quot; like D&amp;D and will be rejected by large groups of players as &quot;not D&amp;D&quot;.&nbsp; TLDR - They might not like the 5 minute workday situation, but they like the rules that lead to the 5 minute workday situation and don't want to lose those rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jer, post: 8647096, member: 19857"] Note that I don't suggest that people will consciously say that they like it - they may hate it but also hate any changes that you might make to the rules to mitigate against it. For example, a lot of 5 minute workday problems could be alleviated by getting rid of Vancian casting and switching spellcasting over to a skill check with backlash damage system that is used in other RPGs. But folks who play D&D like Vancian casting and attempts to remove it from the game over the decades have always failed. My argument is basically that any changes you make to truly get rid of the 5 minute workday will be so radical that the game will no longer "feel" like D&D and will be rejected by large groups of players as "not D&D". TLDR - [B]They might not like the 5 minute workday situation, but they like the rules that lead to the 5 minute workday situation and don't want to lose those rules.[/B] [/QUOTE]

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