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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 8647133" data-attributes="member: 19857">Is it?&nbsp; I think you're downplaying how hard it is to actually stop a group of players from doing anything if they are united in wanting to do it.&nbsp; If you have a group of players who nova out and want to rest after an encounter how do you stop them?&nbsp; Throw wandering monsters at them when they're down to no resources and end up with a TPK?&nbsp; TPKs are a great way to end a gaming group, especially if the players think that the DM is picking on them when they're down or playing &quot;unfairly&quot;.It's tricky to handle these kinds of things in game - these are the kinds of things that as you point out need to be discussed in advance.&nbsp; Or after the fact - the DM saying &quot;hey guys I don't think it's much fun that you keep maxing out your abilities and then camping right afterwards&quot; probably goes a lot farther to getting a game everyone wants to play than in game tactics to &quot;stop players from dictating the pace of play&quot;.&nbsp; Especially when to a large degree the game is based on the players dictating the pace of play everywhere else.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jer, post: 8647133, member: 19857"] Is it? I think you're downplaying how hard it is to actually stop a group of players from doing anything if they are united in wanting to do it. If you have a group of players who nova out and want to rest after an encounter how do you stop them? Throw wandering monsters at them when they're down to no resources and end up with a TPK? TPKs are a great way to end a gaming group, especially if the players think that the DM is picking on them when they're down or playing "unfairly". It's tricky to handle these kinds of things in game - these are the kinds of things that as you point out need to be discussed in advance. Or after the fact - the DM saying "hey guys I don't think it's much fun that you keep maxing out your abilities and then camping right afterwards" probably goes a lot farther to getting a game everyone wants to play than in game tactics to "stop players from dictating the pace of play". Especially when to a large degree the game is based on the players dictating the pace of play everywhere else. [/QUOTE]

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