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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 8649587" data-attributes="member: 7025508">I am not saying that is super easy issue to solve, and it requires some thought. And I think the game defaults are set so that the problem is likely to arise. But once you're cognisant of the issue, there certainly are things you can do. I got rid of easy &quot;rest enabling&quot; spells (rope trick, tiny hut*) and changed to gritty rests and require &quot;sanctuary&quot; for long rests. The world also moves on while the PCs rest. These things were done to avoid this issue cropping up, and it has worked. (I mean, it was not the only reason these things were done, but it was among the reasons.)(* Seriously, if your game is balanced around certain number of encounters between rests, why on Earth would you then have easy spells that give the players a way to dictate when to rest in most circumstances?)And sure, it certainly requires for the players to care on some level about the world and their characters. Like if the players don't care that the gnolls will sacrifice and/or eat their prisoners if the characters don't rescue them swiftly, and (the absurd example someone actually made) don't even care about TPK because they can just make new characters, then this might not work. But basically if you have that level of disinterest the game is an utter failure anyway so it's just best to give up. Either the players are terrible or the GM is, possibly both.I think the game as written does poor job on advising how to handle the matter, and has build in structures that encourage it. But it is not an insurmountable issue either.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crimson Longinus, post: 8649587, member: 7025508"] I am not saying that is super easy issue to solve, and it requires some thought. And I think the game defaults are set so that the problem is likely to arise. But once you're cognisant of the issue, there certainly are things you can do. I got rid of easy "rest enabling" spells (rope trick, tiny hut*) and changed to gritty rests and require "sanctuary" for long rests. The world also moves on while the PCs rest. These things were done to avoid this issue cropping up, and it has worked. (I mean, it was not the only reason these things were done, but it was among the reasons.) (* Seriously, if your game is balanced around certain number of encounters between rests, why on Earth would you then have easy spells that give the players a way to dictate when to rest in most circumstances?) And sure, it certainly requires for the players to care on some level about the world and their characters. Like if the players don't care that the gnolls will sacrifice and/or eat their prisoners if the characters don't rescue them swiftly, and (the absurd example someone actually made) don't even care about TPK because they can just make new characters, then this might not work. But basically if you have that level of disinterest the game is an utter failure anyway so it's just best to give up. Either the players are terrible or the GM is, possibly both. I think the game as written does poor job on advising how to handle the matter, and has build in structures that encourage it. But it is not an insurmountable issue either. [/QUOTE]

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