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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Zardoz" data-source="post: 4492971" data-attributes="member: 704">Short answer would be yes.  The longer answer is that it can be longer if your party wants it to be longer, but there is still a temptation to rest to get back your dailies if most of your group has used them.I moved to the other side of the DM screen and I am letting someone else take a shot at being the DM right now.  In my 3.5 games, (and really every D&D game I ran in both 2nd and 3rd edition), I like to set up tactically challenging fights.  Unless I as the DM specifically prepare a situation where I can force multiple encounters, I am only going to see one challenging encounter per adventuring day.  In prepared dungeon environments in a module, I may get more than that, but the pacing is generally one fight per day.Getting into the first session of Keep on the Shadowfell, We went through 4 encounters, triggering 2 milestones.  The party had a Ranger, a Rogue, a Warlord (me), all of the fights were reasonably challenging (as in they were not cakewalks).  People took damage, and the fights went on for a few rounds.  Some combats ended with people pretty badly torn up.  But after the fights, between Healing surges and the Warlords Inspiring word ability, everyone was at or near full HP after each fight.The primary difference is that after any fight, the only things you lose for the day are spent healing surges and any Daily abilities you used in the fight.  And while they are powerful, the Daily abilities are not so awesome that the presence or absence of one greatly affects your general combat effectiveness.I expect that in a 4th edition game, the party will only need to rest when the following happens.1)  They use all or most of their healing surges for the day2)  Everyone has used their daily powers up.Now, not everyone is going to fire off their daily in every encounter.  And for melee capable classes with 9 or 10 + Con modifier, and the low end being 6+Con, that generally means your players are going to have to eat about two and a half times their starting HP in damage over the course of the day before they need to rest.So my conclusion is this.  In earlier editions, it was the DM who had to act to ensure there were multiple encounters in an adventuring day.  In 4th edition, the plyaers are more likley to push the pace.END COMMUNICATION</blockquote>

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