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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bront" data-source="post: 2824047" data-attributes="member: 19696">But that arguement then only values a bard based on pure combat abilities, and that is not what the bard is about.  A bard is a roleplaying oriented class, which means it needs RP and use of it's class features in order to prosper.Bardic Knowledge I feel is an underutilized aspect of the bard.  It is a very flexable ability, and i've found as a GM wishing my party had a bard because otherwise they lack some of the skills to determine some useful bit of information, sometimes simply for story enhancement, sometimes something that would make their quest easier.Some of the Bardic Musics can be very benificial to the bard's party, and many are more powerful than spells.  While non-SRD, the newer bardic music feats (particular Song of the Heart) help give the bard extra flavor, and add some power to bardic music.Now, am I saying a bard is a power house?  No, but they aren't as underpowered as some people give them credit for.  I think that bardic music needs to be expanded a bit more.I'm in the process of deveolping a PrC that helps tweek the bard's singing abilities, The Seeker of the Llanno (thead here in the house rules section).  I think that's part of the Bard's biggest failing, is the lack of good PrCs, as many cease to be a bard instead of being a different type of bard.</blockquote>