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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 365784" data-attributes="member: 478">Nothing is on par with the spellcasting of a mage. Nothing!Familiars are great!Of course not, that's where the cleric has his strong side!But there doesn't need to be a balance, as the wizards spellcasting is a lot better than the clerics!Yeah, skills are the clerics weakest point, clerics are among the worst there (on par with fighter and paladin with that).Definitely. One of the wizards advantages over the sorcerer as well!Now this is a joke, I hope. Seriously, that can't be your opinion!A cleric loses nothing, when taking a prestige class compared to a wizard!? I would humbly suggest to read your own point number 3 again!A wizard has nothing whatsoever to lose, because the only thing wizards get is spellcasting. In every other respect, they have pretty much the worst possible deal (BAB, HP, Saves, Skills, etc). Only thing of note is the feat every 5 levels, but PrC abilities usually more than make up for that!A cleric however has a delicate balance between all possible abilities (except skills), and therefore a PrC that only increases spellcasting ability would severely hurt a clerics abilities! That's why there is almost no really good PrC for clerics (only a few that are really good for some particular clerics).There are, however, several PrC, which are good for pretty much every wizard out there!Not even close. High level wizards own clerics, everywhere and everytime!A clerics spellcasting is pretty good, not questioned, but it is not even on the same level of comparison to the true arcane casters!I think this is the major error in your assessment. You value the spellcasting ability of the cleric too high!However, the cleric is broken from a mechanical viewpoint, but not because his spellcasting is as good as that of a wizard, but because his spellcasting ability is very good, and at the same time his fighting abilities are as good as that of a fighter!Comparing clerics to wizards (the two strongest class in high levels) doesn't yield anything, but comparing the cleric to a fighter really shows the difference!ByeThanee</blockquote>

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