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<blockquote data-quote="rijeagle" data-source="post: 832828" data-attributes="member: 9835"><p>Has the market been saturated? In the grand scheme of things, yes. But in the mini scheme no. Remember back in the mid 90's when TSR was floundering, reprinting itself over and over with 2e stuff (i.e. monster manuals, magica arcana, equipment guides) more to stay alive really, but nothing substantially new. That was a saturation of emptiness. Right now, yea, it is saturated, but in quantity. There are literally tens of thousands of products out there that basically do the same thing, trying to bring 1e, 2e, or forms thereof, up to 3e, burying stores with the same products, different names. One has to dig, and occasionally, a fine polished gem comes through. I think, once we get past that point of updating, the flow of unique ideas will come around again. </p><p></p><p>One of the best new products I've seen, and it is really handy is Fantasy Flights <em>Monster's Handbook.</em> It gives guidelines to the GM to increase, change, adjust monsters in the d20 system, in a balanced and creative way. This is one book i felt was underpriced, crazy as it sounds. At $25, it was a steal for the amount of information it gives, and the endless possibilities...GMs will never have the same orcs again <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p>Another good idea coming around is from Monkeygod Enterprises. They are currently working on a series called "Legendary Lands" in which plot ideas and lands combine to create an area that could easily fit into any campaign world. One is out now, <em>Cloudholme</em>, and it is an interesting read. Two more are now in the works, and plans are for more to be put into future installments.</p><p></p><p>All in all, though, my belief is there is never enough <em>ideas</em> out there. I think once the rush to update to 3e is cooled down, we may yet see the explosion of good work like we had in the '80s. A lot of the little guys come up with some of the more creative and original ideas, some real treasures, and I hope they pull through.</p><p></p><p>Some of the greatest ideas never seen by the public, because they never get published, are the plots and ideas of GMs running campaigns, and through the actions of the players, end up with a masterpiece. A shame really, that we don't get to see those. Dragonlance is one of the few that actually made it to print, and it exploded onto the world. We just need to wait, as difficult as that sounds, but they will come. </p><p></p><p>With the openness of the OGL, the possibilities increase. To paraphrase from Field of Dreams "it is built, and they will come."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rijeagle, post: 832828, member: 9835"] Has the market been saturated? In the grand scheme of things, yes. But in the mini scheme no. Remember back in the mid 90's when TSR was floundering, reprinting itself over and over with 2e stuff (i.e. monster manuals, magica arcana, equipment guides) more to stay alive really, but nothing substantially new. That was a saturation of emptiness. Right now, yea, it is saturated, but in quantity. There are literally tens of thousands of products out there that basically do the same thing, trying to bring 1e, 2e, or forms thereof, up to 3e, burying stores with the same products, different names. One has to dig, and occasionally, a fine polished gem comes through. I think, once we get past that point of updating, the flow of unique ideas will come around again. One of the best new products I've seen, and it is really handy is Fantasy Flights [I]Monster's Handbook.[/I] It gives guidelines to the GM to increase, change, adjust monsters in the d20 system, in a balanced and creative way. This is one book i felt was underpriced, crazy as it sounds. At $25, it was a steal for the amount of information it gives, and the endless possibilities...GMs will never have the same orcs again :D Another good idea coming around is from Monkeygod Enterprises. They are currently working on a series called "Legendary Lands" in which plot ideas and lands combine to create an area that could easily fit into any campaign world. One is out now, [i]Cloudholme[/i], and it is an interesting read. Two more are now in the works, and plans are for more to be put into future installments. All in all, though, my belief is there is never enough [i]ideas[/i] out there. I think once the rush to update to 3e is cooled down, we may yet see the explosion of good work like we had in the '80s. A lot of the little guys come up with some of the more creative and original ideas, some real treasures, and I hope they pull through. Some of the greatest ideas never seen by the public, because they never get published, are the plots and ideas of GMs running campaigns, and through the actions of the players, end up with a masterpiece. A shame really, that we don't get to see those. Dragonlance is one of the few that actually made it to print, and it exploded onto the world. We just need to wait, as difficult as that sounds, but they will come. With the openness of the OGL, the possibilities increase. To paraphrase from Field of Dreams "it is built, and they will come." [/QUOTE]
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