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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnNephew" data-source="post: 833072" data-attributes="member: 2171">As a publisher, let me turn that semi-rant/gentle persuasion right back on you  -- and challenge you, as a consumer, to actively FIND the innovative products that are already out there, and BUY them...that's how you'll get more.Sure, there is a lot of material covering the same ground.  But there's also a lot of products out there that break new ground, that really do try to do new things, and that do them very well.At the risk of tooting our own horn, look at NYAMBE: AFRICAN ADVENTURES.  This is a groundbreaking work -- an African fantasy setting, designed to be inserted into your existing game world, fully developing everything from classes, to races, to monsters, to new disease rules -- in a hardcover package, including a section in full color.  Top quality, well produced, and genuinely innovative.  Look at the reviews it's gotten here at ENWorld.  (And look how long it took to get enough reviews to show up on the "top 20 list"!)  Look at its Origins Award nomination.But then look at its sales figures -- and most retailers will tell you that they've sold a lot more of various class books.  I can tell you that our book OCCULT LORE (a book of spells, PrCs, etc.) has sold a lot more copies.  (I also think OCCULT LORE is a great book and loaded with innovation, but have to admit it's not as innovative as Nyambe.)If you really want innovation, put your money where your mouth is.  Find the innovative stuff, buy it, and tell your friends about it.  That's the ONLY way you'll see more of it.  Telling publishers that they've gotta do it doesn't work -- too many publishers have listened to that advice, only to find that people love to talk about innovation and quality, but when they stand in the store with their wallet in hand, they wind up buying the class book or another pack of trading cards.Find what you think is innovative, and come here to ENWorld to sing its praises.  If that translates to more excitement and sales, the publishers will give you more of what you want.</blockquote>

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