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Is the Default Playstyle of 5E "Monty Haul?"
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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 8823644" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>First off, much of the problem seems to stem from the utter inability of some (many?) groups to accept the loss of one character as a valid price to pay for the survival of the greater party, e.g. everyone flees and the slowest gets eaten, even though were this reality that's exactly what would happen.</p><p></p><p>And then there's...</p><p></p><p>...this, which while fine once is very risky to do twice, as the players will start thinking their characters can't be killed and act accordingly.</p><p></p><p>It also depends on who-what TPKed them in the first place. The only TPK I've ever DMed was against a creature who just wanted servants; the dead PCs* all got animated as mindless zombies and are probably still bashing around in this guy's little off-plane hideaway. Not exactly playable. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>* - the TPK was also helped significantly by the party's main Fighter being dominated and turned against the party. He survived and in effect became a living zombie - again, not exactly playable - until he starved to death, on which he joined the zombie brigade.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 8823644, member: 29398"] First off, much of the problem seems to stem from the utter inability of some (many?) groups to accept the loss of one character as a valid price to pay for the survival of the greater party, e.g. everyone flees and the slowest gets eaten, even though were this reality that's exactly what would happen. And then there's... ...this, which while fine once is very risky to do twice, as the players will start thinking their characters can't be killed and act accordingly. It also depends on who-what TPKed them in the first place. The only TPK I've ever DMed was against a creature who just wanted servants; the dead PCs* all got animated as mindless zombies and are probably still bashing around in this guy's little off-plane hideaway. Not exactly playable. :) * - the TPK was also helped significantly by the party's main Fighter being dominated and turned against the party. He survived and in effect became a living zombie - again, not exactly playable - until he starved to death, on which he joined the zombie brigade. [/QUOTE]
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