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Message: <blockquote data-quote="N0Man" data-source="post: 4897688" data-attributes="member: 64066">I'm confused by this example, and wonder if I'm misunderstanding you or not.Are you suggesting that your player wants to use the Song of Discord (during his turn), but not bother rolling to hit, to just use the effect line to have an enemy hit someone as a free action?  If that intepretation is correct, then by the actual rules, I would say that this only occurs after you roll the attack (whether you hit or miss).That said, if the player doesn't want to bother rolling and wants to assume he misses to just use the effect line, then unless he was trying to exploit this in some way, then it doesn't sound like much of an issue and refusing him might mean that maybe you are being a tad too unyielding and controlling as a DM.However, if he was doing this for a reason like trying to circumvent provoking an opportunity attack for using a ranged attack in melee, I'd definitely call him on it and forbid it.The context matters, and it's certainly ok for DM's to bend rules to make the game more fun for all the players.</blockquote>