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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7927609" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>I don't understand this. GM and Player are both roles assigned to players of a game. I'm not entirely sure why you keep saying I don't understand the difference. Is it because Player and player are similar? Fine, let's go with GM and Player only as roles and dispense with any concept that we have players with roles and just treat them as the Roles -- independent and unique. Where does that leave us? Your argument was the you have to have GM before you have a game. That still doesn't jive with the example I gave of people getting together after agreeing to play a game and then determining what game and what roles are assigned. Or having a game finish and then having the same group decide what's up next. There's already a game agreed to without having a GM. So, even if we go with your argument, it's doesn't hold water.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Never made that claim. You made a blanket statement of fact. I initially tried to make a humorous comment to show that it's not actually as blanket as you were presenting it. Now, I showed it doesn't hold in at least one case. That shows that, despite any assumed majority (nice that you get to claim it's on your side), it's not a blanket statement of fact. End of point. You've seemingly been on a mission to accuse me of many different things for daring to contest a blanket statement I knew to not be true through personal experience. Never once claimed my experience was universal or even shared. Go back, look at what I said. You've made a choice, and that wasn't to engage with what I said, but to fight it, no matter what.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7927609, member: 16814"] I don't understand this. GM and Player are both roles assigned to players of a game. I'm not entirely sure why you keep saying I don't understand the difference. Is it because Player and player are similar? Fine, let's go with GM and Player only as roles and dispense with any concept that we have players with roles and just treat them as the Roles -- independent and unique. Where does that leave us? Your argument was the you have to have GM before you have a game. That still doesn't jive with the example I gave of people getting together after agreeing to play a game and then determining what game and what roles are assigned. Or having a game finish and then having the same group decide what's up next. There's already a game agreed to without having a GM. So, even if we go with your argument, it's doesn't hold water. Never made that claim. You made a blanket statement of fact. I initially tried to make a humorous comment to show that it's not actually as blanket as you were presenting it. Now, I showed it doesn't hold in at least one case. That shows that, despite any assumed majority (nice that you get to claim it's on your side), it's not a blanket statement of fact. End of point. You've seemingly been on a mission to accuse me of many different things for daring to contest a blanket statement I knew to not be true through personal experience. Never once claimed my experience was universal or even shared. Go back, look at what I said. You've made a choice, and that wasn't to engage with what I said, but to fight it, no matter what. [/QUOTE]
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