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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 7928687" data-attributes="member: 6696971">Just a quick statement.“Action Adventure (AA)” is not the same gaming subtype of TTRPGing as (I’m just going to call it) “Asymmetric Obstacle Course Marathon (AOCM).” We need a better name for that latter one!4e, Cortex+, Blades, and Mouse Guard are fantastic for the former. You’ve got low prep, conflict-charged scene-based play, win conditions and loss conditions.But, while those games each have “extra-scene resource management”, the conceits, different priorities, and the mental overhead assumed by all the participants are all just different than a game of the AOCM archetype.Two problems that occur are:1) People don’t know which they actually want! They think they want AA, but they really want AOCM...or vice versa.2) People think they can just smash the two together and come away with something that satisfies both priorities simultaneously. Unfortunately, in the overwhelming % of instances the priorities and conceits if AA and AOCM are at tension (if not diametric opposition)...and it results in unsatisfying play for one or more participants.(2) is a big one for me and it may be the primary reason why I have conversations with people on ENWorld (to discuss the machinery of how and why this happens, to develop a working framework of language to discuss this stuff, so we can help each other understand what is happening (mentally to the participants and physically within the play of the game) when we play various games.</blockquote>

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