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Is the Feeblemind spell fair?
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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3133028" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>But the question becomes, why would a DM rule that it is similar to casting the spell (or not preparing the spell) when even Death itself does not necessarily lose prepared spells?</p><p></p><p>That appears to be a dicotomy which the "you just gain them back like you gain all other ability related attributes" does not have.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Like you said to me, this is a strawman.</p><p></p><p>If you still have the prepared spell but just do not have access to it, that means that you cannot modify it.</p><p></p><p>So, if the caster has two spell slots available, he can do whatever he wants with those two slots just like always. The third slot with the prepared spell still in it is unavailable.</p><p></p><p>No problem at all.</p><p></p><p>And, this follows RAW closer. If you do not cast a spell, you do not lose the preparation of it. In this case, you would just lose access to it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Either interpretation is fine, it's just that my proposed interpretation is closer to RAW in that spell preparation is only truly lost if the character casts the spell (or dies). Not if some condition just temporarily prevents him from accessing the spell.</p><p></p><p>Plus, I do not know of a rule that takes away spells (outside of casting or death). But, there is a rule that ability score changes result in attributes changing accordingly. Your interpretation (somewhat arbitrarily) states that this rule applies for everything except spells (or spell slots).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 3133028, member: 2011"] But the question becomes, why would a DM rule that it is similar to casting the spell (or not preparing the spell) when even Death itself does not necessarily lose prepared spells? That appears to be a dicotomy which the "you just gain them back like you gain all other ability related attributes" does not have. Like you said to me, this is a strawman. If you still have the prepared spell but just do not have access to it, that means that you cannot modify it. So, if the caster has two spell slots available, he can do whatever he wants with those two slots just like always. The third slot with the prepared spell still in it is unavailable. No problem at all. And, this follows RAW closer. If you do not cast a spell, you do not lose the preparation of it. In this case, you would just lose access to it. Either interpretation is fine, it's just that my proposed interpretation is closer to RAW in that spell preparation is only truly lost if the character casts the spell (or dies). Not if some condition just temporarily prevents him from accessing the spell. Plus, I do not know of a rule that takes away spells (outside of casting or death). But, there is a rule that ability score changes result in attributes changing accordingly. Your interpretation (somewhat arbitrarily) states that this rule applies for everything except spells (or spell slots). [/QUOTE]
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