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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 2038412" data-attributes="member: 4134">You think the illusionist is dead? He wasn't even there. You fell for his illusion <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />No, I don't think the illusionist is dead. He just doesn't write Illusionist on his character sheet any more. Many don't like to specialize in anything, so you have a lot of wizards or sorcerers that use illusion spells. And they might be negated by saves, but you have to earn that save first. You don't get a save unless you interact. The old line "I disbelief" doesn't work. You have to actually interact with it (and talking to a potentially illusionary house doesn't count as interacting). So with a little cunning, you can make them wander past the illusion time and again without them realizing that there is one. Their nice save bonuses won't help if they're not allowed to utilize them.About gnome bards: The thinking was probably on the lines of: "Those poor gnomes have only a subclass as favoured class. That's too restricting. But wizard is already taken by another, we need more diversity in the core rules. Hm... look, we have another core class that's good with illusions, let's take that.About elf wizards: Here, the thinking was something like this: "They may be a chaotic race, but due to their longevity, they do like history and knowledge in general, so reading books is something they might do (especially since they're usually not stupid). Besides, they don't mind spending a couple of decades learning magic - they don't mind spending a couple of decades learning other stuff, either. So wizard suits them fine.</blockquote>

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