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<blockquote data-quote="Simplicity" data-source="post: 2277804" data-attributes="member: 1496">Yes, the illusionist is dead.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because the guys who wrote mage spells made some dumb choices.Silent Image and Major Image are figments.&nbsp; According to the rules, this means that they do no damage.&nbsp; If there is something in the rules about they do temporary damage until disbelieved, please point me to it...&nbsp; I've been trying to find it.&nbsp; You could make illusionary monsters that just miss all the time, I suppose...&nbsp; But people will see through that pretty quickly.Shadow Conjurations are worthless.&nbsp; Let's see, for a fourth level spell, I can cast a FAKE version of a 3rd level conjuration spell.&nbsp; WOW.&nbsp; That's useful.&nbsp; So rather than surrounding myself with real monsters, I'm going to spend a more valuable spell to surround myself with fake monsters with 1/5th the hit points because I'm an illusionist!&nbsp; If someone can explain to me the use of these spells, I'd like to know that as well.Shadow Evocation is merely okay.&nbsp; It's versatile, but that's about it.&nbsp; Once again you have to blow your high-level spell to launch a fake lower level spell.Invisibility is gimped.&nbsp; Where it used to last all day so you could go into combat invisible,now it's much shorter.Mind-affecting stuff works, but if I wanted to do that, why didn't I become an enchanter?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Simplicity, post: 2277804, member: 1496"] Yes, the illusionist is dead. Why? Because the guys who wrote mage spells made some dumb choices. Silent Image and Major Image are figments. According to the rules, this means that they do no damage. If there is something in the rules about they do temporary damage until disbelieved, please point me to it... I've been trying to find it. You could make illusionary monsters that just miss all the time, I suppose... But people will see through that pretty quickly. Shadow Conjurations are worthless. Let's see, for a fourth level spell, I can cast a FAKE version of a 3rd level conjuration spell. WOW. That's useful. So rather than surrounding myself with real monsters, I'm going to spend a more valuable spell to surround myself with fake monsters with 1/5th the hit points because I'm an illusionist! If someone can explain to me the use of these spells, I'd like to know that as well. Shadow Evocation is merely okay. It's versatile, but that's about it. Once again you have to blow your high-level spell to launch a fake lower level spell. Invisibility is gimped. Where it used to last all day so you could go into combat invisible, now it's much shorter. Mind-affecting stuff works, but if I wanted to do that, why didn't I become an enchanter? [/QUOTE]

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