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Message: <blockquote data-quote="satori01" data-source="post: 2278079" data-attributes="member: 7859">I'm not sure Illusionists have ever been a really popular class, sure people confess a liking towards them, as to play a deceiver requires a great deal of panache, but I doubt many people have played them, many people like the straight forward choice. No one ever played an Illusionist in 1e in my circle of friends, and that was when an Illusionist has its own spell list and sole access to Phantasmal Killer/Weird type spells. People I think were afraidof being nerfed by DM interpertation, and the spell list for Illusionists did not start getting decent to mid levels. MUs at least had Burning Hands and Magic Missle, as most characters maxed out at 5th level, this played a huge part in not chosing Illusionist. Frankly Illusions seem gimped in 3e. The role of the Illusionist seems to be how to create Illusions that accomplish some tactical goal, but are innocous enough to discourage close scrutiny or interaction, as interaction kills all illusions it seems like. I dont recall 1e illusions being so easily dispelled. Frankly I would like to see all specialist wizards removed as an option at first level, and replace them with prestige classes that grant focused powers and spells. Beyond that,certain archtypes seem to me worthy of their own 20 level classes as well, necromancer, Enchanter, Illusionist all come to mind. The funny part is I think even the designers of 3e recgonize or should recgonize they went to far in adjudicating illusions. In all the accounts of WOTC employe's or ex employe's campaigns no one plays an illusionist. I have yet to see a single Illusionist in a WOTC module. 1e TSR modules often had Illusionists, Egg of the Phoenix had an Illusionist as a BBEG of one of its chapters, and I also seem to remember dealing with Illusionist in the Beyond the Looking Glass module. Illusionists were scary opponents in 1e, something very memorable.</blockquote>

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