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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2281789" data-attributes="member: 19675">OK...they lose flame arrow.  (Looked it up...now, its not so good a spell- I'm not sure I'd take it if I were a Transmuter!  Did they ever reprint the Fiery Bolts part of the spell anywhere?)I'm not too concerned.  I still stand by my point that Shadow Conjuration IS NOT ABOUT POWER.  It is about flexibility.  It allows the sorcerer who has a much more limited spell repetoir to double the number of arcane effects at his disposal...and that's just assuming the spells from the PHB.If you include setting specific spells, that number is going to jump dramatically.  (OK, not in Eberron, the only one I have in arm's reach, but that's a new setting.)  I'm sure Forgtten Realms, Kalamar, Ravenloft, etc. have all kinds of conjuration spells.  (Side note: anyone familiar with the way Shadow Magic spells work in Ravenloft?)  What about Complete Arcane?Among 3rd party publishers, Fast Forward Entertainment's compendium, The Book of all Spells, contains spells from 31 Mongoose, Bastion, Fantasy Flight, AEG, Paradigm, Sword and Sorcery and even Sony D20 Fantasy sourcebooks.  There are 42 Zero through Third level Conjuration spells added from those sources (as well as 72 Illusion spells over that same range, FYI).</blockquote>