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<blockquote data-quote="Warpiglet-7" data-source="post: 8761728" data-attributes="member: 7025282">Well, it can be tricky tier one and two for sure.For example, cited above: just go with toll of the dead.&nbsp; Yes…but what it that hits a strong save.&nbsp; Well just use one that hits dex.&nbsp; I mean why not just do cantrips?They are in fact “fine” but pale in comparison to the regular attacks of fighters et al.So it really comes down to spells to dominate.&nbsp; And so let’s be realistic.&nbsp; How many can you prepare?&nbsp; Because if you want to be safe you are probably preparing some defensive ones.&nbsp; And if you want to be a problem solver you are preparing utility.&nbsp; And if you want to be in the fight you prepare x.&nbsp; But creature 1 is vulnerable while creature 2 is resistant.&nbsp; Now creature 3 might be immune.I think the wizard is versatile and good but at low mid levels they’re not too far out of balance.When we get to tier 3 and wishes…now how are u going to balance a wish?!&nbsp; With enemies that make you burn them?Unless the group wants to break the game it’s reasonable.&nbsp; I don’t think the designers play tested a group wanting to break the game.&nbsp; Because most groups don’t try to do so.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warpiglet-7, post: 8761728, member: 7025282"] Well, it can be tricky tier one and two for sure. For example, cited above: just go with toll of the dead. Yes…but what it that hits a strong save. Well just use one that hits dex. I mean why not just do cantrips? They are in fact “fine” but pale in comparison to the regular attacks of fighters et al. So it really comes down to spells to dominate. And so let’s be realistic. How many can you prepare? Because if you want to be safe you are probably preparing some defensive ones. And if you want to be a problem solver you are preparing utility. And if you want to be in the fight you prepare x. But creature 1 is vulnerable while creature 2 is resistant. Now creature 3 might be immune. I think the wizard is versatile and good but at low mid levels they’re not too far out of balance. When we get to tier 3 and wishes…now how are u going to balance a wish?! With enemies that make you burn them? Unless the group wants to break the game it’s reasonable. I don’t think the designers play tested a group wanting to break the game. Because most groups don’t try to do so. [/QUOTE]

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