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Is the major thing that's disappointing about Sorcerers is the lack of sorcery point options?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jago" data-source="post: 6909537" data-attributes="member: 6855130"><p>There is literally a School of Conjuration Wizard. <em>Unseen Servant</em> and <em>Find Familiar</em> are 1st Level Conjuration spells. I will give you that you have to hit 7th level before you can take the 4th Level Spells <em>Conjure Minor Elementals</em> and <em>Mordenkainen's Faithful Hound</em>, and then 5th Level grants you <em>Conjure Elementals</em>, and then there are others beyond that. </p><p></p><p>Druids get <em>Conjure Animals</em> as a 3rd Level Spell, and then they get <em>Minor Elementals</em> and <em>Woodland Beings</em> as 4th Level Spells, <em>Elementals</em> as a 5th, like the Wizard, <em>Conjure Fey</em> as a 6th Level Spell ..</p><p></p><p>I mean, yeah, the Druid gets more of these spells, but a Wizard can do it at about the same levels that a Druid can start becoming good at it. And the Wizard has an Archetype that makes this even better, the Druid doesn't.</p><p></p><p>I suppose this is where the suggestion gets made of "Then play a Druid to fit your concept", but I'm kind of in agreement here. <em>But</em>, I think this actually has a lot to do with the same reason the Beastmaster was so lackluster out the door: 5E had a design philosophy of not wanting critters or animal companions or summoned creatures to start outshadowing Players or basically being on par with their power, so having "extra toons" as it were seems to be diminished overall. There are only 6 Spells that are "Conjure X" that actually summon a creature: the other 2 are Conjure Barrage and Conjure Volley, which ... are not creatures.</p><p></p><p>But, the Wizard <em>can </em>do this. As this thread is about the Sorcerer, I feel obligated to add that the Sorcerer cannot <em>at all</em>. They get <em>none</em> of these spells, so the idea of a Sorcerer summoning planar beings and stuff is right out. They don't get the spells at all.</p><p></p><p>And the spells like <em>Conjure Fey</em> that a Druid gets? There's nothing saying a Wizard cannot find a scroll of this that they can transcribe into their spellbook and then boom, they have the spell too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jago, post: 6909537, member: 6855130"] There is literally a School of Conjuration Wizard. [I]Unseen Servant[/I] and [I]Find Familiar[/I] are 1st Level Conjuration spells. I will give you that you have to hit 7th level before you can take the 4th Level Spells [I]Conjure Minor Elementals[/I] and [I]Mordenkainen's Faithful Hound[/I], and then 5th Level grants you [I]Conjure Elementals[/I], and then there are others beyond that. Druids get [I]Conjure Animals[/I] as a 3rd Level Spell, and then they get [I]Minor Elementals[/I] and [I]Woodland Beings[/I] as 4th Level Spells, [I]Elementals[/I] as a 5th, like the Wizard, [I]Conjure Fey[/I] as a 6th Level Spell .. I mean, yeah, the Druid gets more of these spells, but a Wizard can do it at about the same levels that a Druid can start becoming good at it. And the Wizard has an Archetype that makes this even better, the Druid doesn't. I suppose this is where the suggestion gets made of "Then play a Druid to fit your concept", but I'm kind of in agreement here. [I]But[/I], I think this actually has a lot to do with the same reason the Beastmaster was so lackluster out the door: 5E had a design philosophy of not wanting critters or animal companions or summoned creatures to start outshadowing Players or basically being on par with their power, so having "extra toons" as it were seems to be diminished overall. There are only 6 Spells that are "Conjure X" that actually summon a creature: the other 2 are Conjure Barrage and Conjure Volley, which ... are not creatures. But, the Wizard [I]can [/I]do this. As this thread is about the Sorcerer, I feel obligated to add that the Sorcerer cannot [I]at all[/I]. They get [I]none[/I] of these spells, so the idea of a Sorcerer summoning planar beings and stuff is right out. They don't get the spells at all. And the spells like [I]Conjure Fey[/I] that a Druid gets? There's nothing saying a Wizard cannot find a scroll of this that they can transcribe into their spellbook and then boom, they have the spell too. [/QUOTE]
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