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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 4999166" data-attributes="member: 43019">But once it's +2 or +3, that comparison goes away. There wouldn't be so much hoopla if it was +1, and since the _complaint_ with the math is that as you get into high levels like 15+ the math drifts and expertise gives a large bonus specifically for those levels... then treating it as +1 doesn't make sense.It shreds them into a fine mist. +attack only gets more useful as you get higher level, not less. Not only does it still improve damage by just as much, but now your riders on attacks are things like 'stun' instead of 'prone' on the attack and that's immense. Or things like Storm and Hurricane of Blades where not missing pays off in massive damage.The 'math is off' discussion should really be almost exclusively narrowed to the later half of the levels, especially 21+ since _most_ of the fixing feats don't even appear until then and the gap is only human perceptible around then. Of course people don't see a problem at 7th or 8th. They're not supposed to.Going from 1st to 8th, monsters gain 7 to hit & defense, players gain +7 to their good FRWs, +6 to their bad FRW, +7 to attack. Difference? -1 to one or maybe two defenses. Not noticeable.</blockquote>