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Is the Noble class a good Warlord substitute?
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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 6702909" data-attributes="member: 6689464"><p>Wow, lots of stuff in here. I need to sort it all out. I thought wording wouldn't be as important, but again sometimes I get so purpley with my prose... Intimidate and History are omissions, I was sure they were there... the musical instrument could work, but I didn't want to invoke bard that much. </p><p></p><p>With the Brave I had to tone it down because it was so close to fighter, the lack of ranged weapons is cause of the warlord profs. And the tactician's selection is based on the same ideas, taclords used lots or reach and ranged ones. The forbidden maneuvers are because they create weird situations, you give an ally the power of giving an ally and attack, and it can be weirder when they give it back to you and then use it to give an ally an attack with coordinated attack so you double break the action economy. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Path of the heart changed a lot, Tears of the pure hearted used to be called "Tears of the princess" -taken from fairy tales such Rapunzel as a way to give the class access to some form of restoration that seemed plausible-, and the cries were more like begs, nags, reactions, or even reprimands. Some of the cries were originally actions, but that had to change to avoid stepping on the bard's toes. Force of personality used to be just expertise on two skills of your choosing. The unarmored thing is more cosmetic -an artifact of when it was a more generic bystander subclass-, and I'm not aware of attacking objects still being a thing -I guess that if a group still gives hp and ac to things, the DM can rule for it-, but the intention was so the subclass was a full opt out of combat option, almost like a full pacifist. </p><p></p><p>Thanks for the input. Maybe this class could use some errata -is that possible?-</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 6702909, member: 6689464"] Wow, lots of stuff in here. I need to sort it all out. I thought wording wouldn't be as important, but again sometimes I get so purpley with my prose... Intimidate and History are omissions, I was sure they were there... the musical instrument could work, but I didn't want to invoke bard that much. With the Brave I had to tone it down because it was so close to fighter, the lack of ranged weapons is cause of the warlord profs. And the tactician's selection is based on the same ideas, taclords used lots or reach and ranged ones. The forbidden maneuvers are because they create weird situations, you give an ally the power of giving an ally and attack, and it can be weirder when they give it back to you and then use it to give an ally an attack with coordinated attack so you double break the action economy. Path of the heart changed a lot, Tears of the pure hearted used to be called "Tears of the princess" -taken from fairy tales such Rapunzel as a way to give the class access to some form of restoration that seemed plausible-, and the cries were more like begs, nags, reactions, or even reprimands. Some of the cries were originally actions, but that had to change to avoid stepping on the bard's toes. Force of personality used to be just expertise on two skills of your choosing. The unarmored thing is more cosmetic -an artifact of when it was a more generic bystander subclass-, and I'm not aware of attacking objects still being a thing -I guess that if a group still gives hp and ac to things, the DM can rule for it-, but the intention was so the subclass was a full opt out of combat option, almost like a full pacifist. Thanks for the input. Maybe this class could use some errata -is that possible?- [/QUOTE]
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