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<blockquote data-quote="WhatGravitas" data-source="post: 3585035" data-attributes="member: 33132">I like 3rd party stuff, but only after a through-out review. And the same for WotC material. I don't care for the IP that much, because I'm somewhat of a homebrewer (although Eberron has really caught me).And for some time, WotC didn't offer that much - I didn't like their first batch of &quot;Completes&quot; (i.e. Arcane, Warrior, Divine and Adventurer). In this time, I've made great use of Malhavoc's stuff (the Books of Might, Hyperconsciousness, AE and, of course, Ptolus) - and they're still on my top list of products. Green Ronin, Necromancer Games - they also got a place in my &quot;good stuff list&quot;.But now, at least I feel so, innovative 3rd party stuff has kind of died: Necromancer is slower than before, Monte has left the business, Green Ronin has turned to their own systems, as well as AEG.On the other hand, WotC got a lot more creative and daring with their newer books: The new Completes are fresh and introduced some very interesting stuff, the &quot;Monster Books&quot; went from the meh-Libris Mortis to the top-notch Fiendish Codices, the PHB2, ToB: Bo9S is a very interesting thing, breaking with some old design paradigms, Red Hand of Doom is a very good adventure...Yeah, nowadays I'm far closer to WotC products, than before: Good 3rd party stuff is rarer than before, and &quot;official stuff&quot; is far better than before - I'm not sticking to &quot;official&quot;, I'm sticking to &quot;good&quot;, and I have to admit, that &quot;official stuff&quot; belongs to the best stuff out there, right now.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WhatGravitas, post: 3585035, member: 33132"] I like 3rd party stuff, but only after a through-out review. And the same for WotC material. I don't care for the IP that much, because I'm somewhat of a homebrewer (although Eberron has really caught me). And for some time, WotC didn't offer that much - I didn't like their first batch of "Completes" (i.e. Arcane, Warrior, Divine and Adventurer). In this time, I've made great use of Malhavoc's stuff (the Books of Might, Hyperconsciousness, AE and, of course, Ptolus) - and they're still on my top list of products. Green Ronin, Necromancer Games - they also got a place in my "good stuff list". But now, at least I feel so, innovative 3rd party stuff has kind of died: Necromancer is slower than before, Monte has left the business, Green Ronin has turned to their own systems, as well as AEG. On the other hand, WotC got a lot more creative and daring with their newer books: The new Completes are fresh and introduced some very interesting stuff, the "Monster Books" went from the meh-Libris Mortis to the top-notch Fiendish Codices, the PHB2, ToB: Bo9S is a very interesting thing, breaking with some old design paradigms, Red Hand of Doom is a very good adventure... Yeah, nowadays I'm far closer to WotC products, than before: Good 3rd party stuff is rarer than before, and "official stuff" is far better than before - I'm not sticking to "official", I'm sticking to "good", and I have to admit, that "official stuff" belongs to the best stuff out there, right now. [/QUOTE]

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