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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Melan" data-source="post: 2916820" data-attributes="member: 1713">In the case of the AD&D module family, things were moving in that direction already. But some of the earlier modules - such as ToH, White Plume Mountain, Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth, Judges Guild's Tegel Manor and Thieves of Fortress Badabaskor - were more about imporbable, surreal challenges for dungeon explorers. Truth to tell, I have my limits - Merle Davenport's Killer Kitchen in the Dungeoneer Magazine [an old fanzine, not to be confused with today's Dungeon] isn't the thing I am looking for today. Even if the idea of getting assaulted by rapid-firing coffee mills is a cool concept.  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh    :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" /> Still, this surrealism has its place I think. In fact, I don't buy the argument that this is a "juvenile" form of gaming. It would have been much more logical, even straightforward, to base OD&D on more "mundane" fantasy such as Tolkien or Howard. That EGG and Dave Arneson didn't do this isn't necessarily a form of immaturity. I think it has more to do with what they wanted out of the game - they seem to have liked the whole fantastic aspect. Maybe it was a conscious design effort, maybe not. From my perspective, they created a game which was a whole lot of fun in its "unevolved" state, independent of how fun or unfun other approaches are. All in all, I think ToH can and should be judged on its own context.</blockquote>

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