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<blockquote data-quote="Anubis the Doomseer" data-source="post: 1031116" data-attributes="member: 12455">Re: reOriginally posted by Celtavian My Need's and Nice's are very different from yours. I wouldn't want to play a male Paladin with less than the following stats:Str 16 Dex 12 Con 14 Int 10 Wis 14 Cha 16That is 36 points. That is my minimum heroic Paladin,Well, I wouldn't want to play one without 6 18s across the board, but my DM doesn't care how blue in the face I get holding my breath for it.&nbsp; This is just unrealistic in terms of expectations - a certainly a hold over from 2e when you had to have high stats or nothing else.The paladin I play has the following (we rolled the stats, simple 4d6, drop lowest, arranged to taste):Str 12, Dex 16, Con 12, Int 14, Wis 12, Cha 18Originally my strength was lower, but I've been putting points into it from levelling.&nbsp; Instead of trying to play like a fighter (tank, heavy armor, two handed weapon), I play to my strengths - medium armor, charisma boosters, and diplomacy.&nbsp; I still hold my own in combat, acting as the party tank (due to my auras).&nbsp; I would suck at being the full plate and greatsword, but that isn't the sole role for paladin.I'm kind of glad they dropped the point buy from the Revised PHB. It was a worthless and boring system of character generation. It isn't gone, it's still in the DMG.I would never play a character with a below average stat like an 8 unless I was playing a particular concept that called for it,This tells me all I need to know.- Ma'at</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Anubis the Doomseer, post: 1031116, member: 12455"] [b]Re: re[/b] [i]Originally posted by Celtavian [/i] [B]My Need's and Nice's are very different from yours. I wouldn't want to play a male Paladin with less than the following stats: Str 16 Dex 12 Con 14 Int 10 Wis 14 Cha 16 That is 36 points. That is my minimum heroic Paladin,[/b] Well, I wouldn't want to play one without 6 18s across the board, but my DM doesn't care how blue in the face I get holding my breath for it. This is just unrealistic in terms of expectations - a certainly a hold over from 2e when you had to have high stats or nothing else. The paladin I play has the following (we rolled the stats, simple 4d6, drop lowest, arranged to taste): Str 12, Dex 16, Con 12, Int 14, Wis 12, Cha 18 Originally my strength was lower, but I've been putting points into it from levelling. Instead of trying to play like a fighter (tank, heavy armor, two handed weapon), I play to my strengths - medium armor, charisma boosters, and diplomacy. I still hold my own in combat, acting as the party tank (due to my auras). I would suck at being the full plate and greatsword, but that isn't the sole role for paladin. [b]I'm kind of glad they dropped the point buy from the Revised PHB. It was a worthless and boring system of character generation. [/b] It isn't gone, it's still in the DMG. [b]I would never play a character with a below average stat like an 8 unless I was playing a particular concept that called for it,[/b] This tells me all I need to know. - Ma'at [/QUOTE]

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