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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2717303" data-attributes="member: 5777">Nonproficiency hurts a bit though I would imagine.The extra damage from the feat are extra damage dice. Hence, not multiplied on a crit.One attack per combat generally which has a good chance to miss which kills the extra damage ability..Doing it for a few gold is nice as well, saves on pp that way <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Although it is harder at low levels when money is more scarce, later on the pp is worth more though.The goal of every character <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> and each has abilities to help do this.It seems like this character simply cannot fail checks.. failing a vigor manifestation is likely death.. of course manifesting it in the first place means you didnt do anything that round..Why dont the bad guys get to use tactics???Ahh well.. without actually being there I simply cannot point out where things went one way while they could have easily gone some other way with a simple tactic change.So the dm broke the rules? You cannot use immediate actions while you are flat footed (even if you were laying down). One dead duck. It is an easy rule to miss though.Face down, eyes closed while paralyzed? no targetting.But then, if it is injury poison and you did resilience away all of the damage then the poison wouldnt take effect.So not coup de grace? Was she trying to drown you or was she attacking you?If attacking then assassin with a dagger would likely have a few sneak attack dice.. so say 2d4+4+3d6 = avg 19.5 or 10 pp to negate each time, which isnt too bad.If it was drowning then again underwater, facing down.. no targetting. And being attacked by a pretty inept assassin.. drowning is a slow way to go, it'll take minutes while coup de grace usually takes seconds.. with drowning the person has a chance of becoming unparalyzed or someone else coming by.It is definately rough. Although those who have the fewest ways around it tend to have the best fort saves to avoid it.Definately a psion advantage, although being unable to move has always made me limit someones view. I'll have to check the rules to make sure I am doing it properly or not, if they mention anything about it at all. I did a pretty minimal pp expenditure run earlier which focused mainly on useing the feats and it would still run out after 2 - 3 fights easily, and that was 'without' useing the elans ability to absorb damage.So, I am confused as to how 4 or even 5 combats a day would possibly have enough pp. Too much rambling out of me for tonight, have a good one all <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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