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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2720368" data-attributes="member: 2011">So, are you claiming that our DM did not handle the Inspired correctly and did not present us with a serious threat?Or are you claiming that the players in our game were incapable of overcoming correctly presented serious threats on our own?You appear to be shocked that we drove her and her Kineticist ally off on multiple occasions and eventually killed them.All I know is that she did kick our butts a lot, but we managed with tenacity to drive her off each time (and actually, we only fought her 4 times total). The key to defeating her was to ignore her hired guns (except for the spellcasters) and to focus most of our attacks on her. Even powerful opponents can get worn down if most of the PCs are focusing on them. Course, we tend to do this as a matter of course for most &quot;spell casters&quot;. Try to limit spell casters (or manifesters) to as few rounds of actions as possible, even if it means using up some of your more potent resources for the day.PS. Elans have it all over Inspired. Inspired are tough, but they are still limited to one action per round shy of Quicken or Shism. Elans can do a defensive action (Resistance or Resiliance) along with an offensive one every round.Like I said, it's possible he messed up. It's also possible that I am misremembering since it was over a year ago.Again though, you are implying that the DM was incompetent. Pretty bold words based on a single data point that may or may not be accurate.Maybe you should knock that off.Of course. Just like spells. Unless you make your Manifest Defensively check. Or, if you are willing to take the AoO, especially with an often higher AC.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2720368, member: 2011"] So, are you claiming that our DM did not handle the Inspired correctly and did not present us with a serious threat? Or are you claiming that the players in our game were incapable of overcoming correctly presented serious threats on our own? You appear to be shocked that we drove her and her Kineticist ally off on multiple occasions and eventually killed them. All I know is that she did kick our butts a lot, but we managed with tenacity to drive her off each time (and actually, we only fought her 4 times total). The key to defeating her was to ignore her hired guns (except for the spellcasters) and to focus most of our attacks on her. Even powerful opponents can get worn down if most of the PCs are focusing on them. Course, we tend to do this as a matter of course for most "spell casters". Try to limit spell casters (or manifesters) to as few rounds of actions as possible, even if it means using up some of your more potent resources for the day. PS. Elans have it all over Inspired. Inspired are tough, but they are still limited to one action per round shy of Quicken or Shism. Elans can do a defensive action (Resistance or Resiliance) along with an offensive one every round. Like I said, it's possible he messed up. It's also possible that I am misremembering since it was over a year ago. Again though, you are implying that the DM was incompetent. Pretty bold words based on a single data point that may or may not be accurate. Maybe you should knock that off. Of course. Just like spells. Unless you make your Manifest Defensively check. Or, if you are willing to take the AoO, especially with an often higher AC. [/QUOTE]

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