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Is the Psion class balanced?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jackelope King" data-source="post: 2724232" data-attributes="member: 31454"><p>Echoing Scion for a moment (I hope he doesn't mind)...</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you look at the system as a whole, core spell casting classes are in serious trouble if they get grappled thanks to their low hit die and poor armor options. Divine casters (especially druids) do not suffer these problems. Also note that since psions have a greater percentage of close-range powers, they expose themselves to such danger more often.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you look at the system as a whole, using a class feature which directly drains you primary class ability when you already suffer from poor stamina is a poor idea, especially when your primary class feature can cover this much better. Save-boosting powers are ALWAYS better options than the elan racial ability, and many of them ARE available as immediate actions.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Using a class feature which directly drains you primary class ability when you already suffer from poor stamina is a poor idea, especially when your primary class feature can cover this much better. Vigor is ALWAYS a better option than the elan racial ability.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you look at the system as a whole, no core spell casting class has to expend actions to punch through spell resistance at +4 with two feats (assuming the default magic = psionic campaign). Psions have to. Also note that by the rules as written, you must activate and expend two psionic foci in order to activate both power penetration and greater power penetration, which means that getting that +8 bonus requires at minimum 4 feats (both the penetration feats and either psicrystal affinity/psicrystal containment or psychic meditation/expanded knowledge [hustle]).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Actions are resources to be spent like any other. If you fail to realize this, you'll fail to understand psionics.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Actions are resources to be spent like any other. If you fail to realize this, you'll fail to understand psionics.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you look at the system as a whole, damaging spells automatically scale, giving the caster something for nothing and allowing them to expend fewer resources to gain the same effect. Psionic powers do not enjoy this benefit.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Absolutely. We could create a similar list of arcane and divine problems which make these pale in comparison <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jackelope King, post: 2724232, member: 31454"] Echoing Scion for a moment (I hope he doesn't mind)... If you look at the system as a whole, core spell casting classes are in serious trouble if they get grappled thanks to their low hit die and poor armor options. Divine casters (especially druids) do not suffer these problems. Also note that since psions have a greater percentage of close-range powers, they expose themselves to such danger more often. If you look at the system as a whole, using a class feature which directly drains you primary class ability when you already suffer from poor stamina is a poor idea, especially when your primary class feature can cover this much better. Save-boosting powers are ALWAYS better options than the elan racial ability, and many of them ARE available as immediate actions. Using a class feature which directly drains you primary class ability when you already suffer from poor stamina is a poor idea, especially when your primary class feature can cover this much better. Vigor is ALWAYS a better option than the elan racial ability. If you look at the system as a whole, no core spell casting class has to expend actions to punch through spell resistance at +4 with two feats (assuming the default magic = psionic campaign). Psions have to. Also note that by the rules as written, you must activate and expend two psionic foci in order to activate both power penetration and greater power penetration, which means that getting that +8 bonus requires at minimum 4 feats (both the penetration feats and either psicrystal affinity/psicrystal containment or psychic meditation/expanded knowledge [hustle]). Actions are resources to be spent like any other. If you fail to realize this, you'll fail to understand psionics. Actions are resources to be spent like any other. If you fail to realize this, you'll fail to understand psionics. If you look at the system as a whole, damaging spells automatically scale, giving the caster something for nothing and allowing them to expend fewer resources to gain the same effect. Psionic powers do not enjoy this benefit. Absolutely. We could create a similar list of arcane and divine problems which make these pale in comparison :) [/QUOTE]
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