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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2724361" data-attributes="member: 2011">Course, you have to survive those first few levels to accomplish this.Plus, this is misleading. Even at high level, a Sorcerer mostly casts his high level spells.For example, a 20th level Sorcerer. At that level, his real bread and butter spells are 7th, 8th, and 9th level spells. Sure, he'll cast some of his lower level spells during the day, but he won't cast most of them. On a real tough day, he'll cast most of his 7th through 9th level spells.The 20th level Sorcerer has 8 7th, 8 8th, and 7 9th level spells he can cast (assuming a fairly maxxed out 34 Cha). And this includes all of his major metamagic as well.25 spells. If you equate this to psionic PP, that's 8 * 17 + 8 * 15 + 7 * 13 = 343 PPThe 20th level straight Psion has 383 (19 Int) to 463 PP (34 Int) at that level. So, he can manifest 22 to 27 17 PP powers. Or, he could boost them even to 20 PP powers and do 19 to 23 of those.The Sorcerer is lmited to 18 (19 Cha) to 25 (34 Cha) of his highest level spells, depending on stat.From a "what actually happens during a game day" point of view, the high level Sorcerer has a lot of dinky low level spells that are not that useful because they have DC limits and damage caps and other limitations. He has to metamagic them (using up a higher level slot) in order to overcome these limitations.Almost all of the Psion's lower level powers are still useful.In actual gameplay, the Psion, even at high level, has a larger payload than the Sorcerer most days. A 20th level Sorcerer with only a few or none of his highest level spells and most of his lowest level spells still not cast in the day is in trouble. A 20th level Psion with 50 PP left is also in trouble, but nowhere near as big of trouble. He can still fire off a 20 PP power if necessary.And, this does not even take into account the differences between a Psion and a Wizard where the differences are even greater.The fact remains that the Psion can do high PP powers as often or more often in most actual gameplay than the Sorcerer can do high level spells. This also scales at many lower levels, although even level Sorcerers tend to even out with the Psion due to the big boost they receive in spells on even levels. Odd level Psions tend to be better (e.g. at 9th level with 24 stats, the psion has 103 PP and the Sorcerer has 76 PP worth of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th level spells, at 10th level, 123 PP vs. 125 PP).</blockquote>

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