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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2724645" data-attributes="member: 2011">You missed the most important part that spell casters cannot cast most of their spells when grappled. Cannot. They might be able to cast their verbal only spells.The low hit die and poor armor options are only relevant to the "get in and out" part of grapple. Once in, they are in more trouble than Psions.Psions might be able to manifest ANY of their powers.It's equivalent to casting an instantaneous Quicken spell, even at 1st through 6th level, even though same level spell casters cannot do that at all and higher level casters do not get that cool of spells to do until much later.Stop most or all damage is huge.Sure, you have to use PP. The fact is, you CAN. You have the option. Core races do not have the option to stop all damage by sacrificing a spell.As pointed out, the Errata handles this.Actions are resources. But, they are a renewable resource.The immediate action "actions are resources" argument is so weak it is almost non-existent. Sure, an Elan using Resilience is using up an immediate action. For a HUGE gain. Big whoop. Most characters do not have the opportunity to use immediate actions at all. The Psionics book practically added the entire (broken) immediate action concept to the game because core classes couldn't do this wonderful thing.And, using up a full round action at low level does prevent the psion from doing OTHER boosts. They got some mega-advantage like +4 to Spell Resistance and then have to get the Focus back? They can no longer run up a wall and get behind an opponent, even though no other core class can do that at all. They can still fight. They can still manifest powers.And, since Psions get bonus feats, it's not a major effort to get Psionic Meditation or to have your Psi-crystal to hold onto a bonus focus.Sure, they have to give up an action to get the focus back. But, they get big advantages with that minor temporary disadvantage.Yes. They do scale. They scale for about 5 or 6 levels at the most and then stop.Course, the DC on the core spells does not scale.Course, the Psion can boost the damage past the 5 or 6 level limit AND his DC scales when he boosts most powers.Course, the Psion can choose a damaging energy power which his opponent is not as resistent to (such as Energy Resistance or good/bad save categories or no Reflex save, no Improved Evasion).Course, Fire and Cold add an extra point of damage per PP.Course, psionic characters can boost beyond their manifester level.Your argument here is lacking. The Psions get a lot more advantages here than the 5 or 6 level auto-scale.Typically only once you get to the Complete books. Core has very few of these. Feel free to name them.</blockquote>

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