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<blockquote data-quote="amerigoV" data-source="post: 6259258">To a degree, I can get by it if we are talking &quot;normal&quot; NPCs. But Adventurer-like NPCs should generally follow the same rules in principle (not necessarily to the letter of the law - that is too much work).I got a chance to check which module. Its is Dead in the Eye, Levels 8-10 for 4e. We never get the stats for Arak &quot;Broken Arm&quot; Logan of the Black Arrows. The set up has a few other problems besides broken arms. His mission is to defeat the warped beholder &quot;at all costs&quot;. Past encounters with the Far Realm has given him a &quot;burning desire to destroy all aberrant creatures.&quot; We are not sure how many Black Arrows are around, but they are setting up fortifications around the cave opening. He is also &quot;very concerned&quot; about some other of his Black Arrows that have not returned from scouting the cave. But as soon as the PCs show up, he wants them to do the dirty work while they &quot;hold the line&quot;.&nbsp; NPCs now are conveniently out of the way. You might as well just put a&nbsp; yellow &quot;?&quot; over his headWhile the setup is classic in the sense of needing the PCs to be the heroes, the direction of the NPC's motivations and actions are very mixed. Its not just a D&amp;D hp thing, but that was the first thing that jumped out at me when I read the set up.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="amerigoV, post: 6259258"] To a degree, I can get by it if we are talking "normal" NPCs. But Adventurer-like NPCs should generally follow the same rules in principle (not necessarily to the letter of the law - that is too much work). I got a chance to check which module. Its is Dead in the Eye, Levels 8-10 for 4e. We never get the stats for Arak "Broken Arm" Logan of the Black Arrows. The set up has a few other problems besides broken arms. His mission is to defeat the warped beholder "at all costs". Past encounters with the Far Realm has given him a "burning desire to destroy all aberrant creatures." We are not sure how many Black Arrows are around, but they are setting up fortifications around the cave opening. He is also "very concerned" about some other of his Black Arrows that have not returned from scouting the cave. But as soon as the PCs show up, he wants them to do the dirty work while they "hold the line". NPCs now are conveniently out of the way. You might as well just put a yellow "?" over his head While the setup is classic in the sense of needing the PCs to be the heroes, the direction of the NPC's motivations and actions are very mixed. Its not just a D&D hp thing, but that was the first thing that jumped out at me when I read the set up. [/QUOTE]

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