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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6260493" data-attributes="member: 22779">But, even this is fairly rose coloured nostalgia glassed talking.&nbsp; Look at the number of steps you need to go through in a single round in Basic/Expert D&amp;D.&nbsp; Everything is categorised.&nbsp; Ranged weapons first, melee weapons then spells.&nbsp; Oops, what happens if I change my mind and I want to throw an axe?&nbsp; Guess I missed my chance. Comparatively, a 3e round is fairly simple.&nbsp; Each player takes his or her turn and passes the dice.Where 3e gets ridiculously complicated is in special manoeuvres.&nbsp; Grapple, sunder, that sort of thing.&nbsp; And, I will freely agree that these rules are more complicated than they need to be.&nbsp; But, ignoring that for a second, 3e is a much more streamlined, simpler combat system than earlier D&amp;D.&nbsp; The great slowdowns in 3e come with special manoeuvres or spells.&nbsp; Straight up combat?&nbsp; No terribly hard.Although, that said, I have seen a player who would take almost ten minutes to resolve his turn with a 4th level dwarf fighter.&nbsp; Sigh.&nbsp; Makes me want to head desk.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6260493, member: 22779"] But, even this is fairly rose coloured nostalgia glassed talking. Look at the number of steps you need to go through in a single round in Basic/Expert D&D. Everything is categorised. Ranged weapons first, melee weapons then spells. Oops, what happens if I change my mind and I want to throw an axe? Guess I missed my chance. Comparatively, a 3e round is fairly simple. Each player takes his or her turn and passes the dice. Where 3e gets ridiculously complicated is in special manoeuvres. Grapple, sunder, that sort of thing. And, I will freely agree that these rules are more complicated than they need to be. But, ignoring that for a second, 3e is a much more streamlined, simpler combat system than earlier D&D. The great slowdowns in 3e come with special manoeuvres or spells. Straight up combat? No terribly hard. Although, that said, I have seen a player who would take almost ten minutes to resolve his turn with a 4th level dwarf fighter. Sigh. Makes me want to head desk. [/QUOTE]

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