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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Akrasia" data-source="post: 1894807" data-attributes="member: 23012">I don't know what you mean by a 'grass roots movement', but I do think that you are incorrect in thinking that this is simply the view of a few 'discontents'.  I've simply encountered far too many people -- even people who dearly love 3E -- who have expressed similar views to think it is as marginal as you make it out to be for players of my generation.  You might not like to admit it, but there really are people out there who can't afford the time (or just lack the energy) to do what is necessary in order to DM 3E because of other commitments, or who are frustrated at how slow their once/month game actually goes.  The fact that people raise these concerns on a 3E-focused site like this one suggests that, if anything, the number of 'greying' gamers in the predicament that I describe might be much greater than could accurately be inferred from the (rather noticeable) number of posts here.Okay, right back at you: I think you might be unfairly projecting your own experience onto the 30+ gaming population.  An ENworld reviewer might not have the best perspective on things like the 'learning curve' involved for casual gamers trying to DM an occasional game.In any case, the problems that I have with DM'ing the game are 'objective' ones, in that they are real.  And they are objective in that other people have them too.  I never claimed that they were universal.  As for how common they are in the 30+ group, I just don't have the data.  But even if it is a minority, I suspect that it might be a sufficiently sizeable minority for it to be worthwhile for game producers to notice (and some are starting to).</blockquote>

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