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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 2536314" data-attributes="member: 5143">I agree with the original poster, I see about 80% house rules and 20% actual rules here.I especially agree with dcollins.  As I've posted in a couple of threads before, this is one of the biggest house rules abused in this forum (and every forum).Monte Cook posted in his own forums a couple of years ago that he regrets ever putting the table in the book because now he has to deal with hundreds of questions about "If I try to recreate this magic item from X book using the chart in the DMG it comes out at 5000 gp, but in that book it is listed as 150,000 gp.  Why would anyone buy the item from that book?"  He is then force to explain to each person that the magic item creation guidelines are optional and actually guidelines rather than rules.  He points out to each one that *THE* most important step in the magic item creation guidelines is the last one where you compare the price to an existing magic item and change the price of the resulting item accordingly.  He mentioned that often items would have to be adjusted drastically to prevent them from being completely unbalanced.  I believe the last comment I read from him was something to the effect that he has found that in practice it generates more items that needed to be modified than ones that don't, so it wasn't a good set of guidelines.  He mentioned that the "new" chart in Tome and Blood was an attempt to fix some problems with the chart, but that even that was less than perfect.  Plus, they didn't include any of the changes in the 3.5 edition DMG.Along the same note, there are basically as many "rules" in the DMG for making up new races and classes as there are for new magic items.  So, either they are all house rules or all RAW.My frustration comes from asking a question that was clearly asking what the rule was and getting 10 answers saying "that feat is broken, I'd suggest changing it like this:" and not one answer that actually says how the rules works.I'd prefer to have a Forum dedicated to the rules as written without houserules.  That's because if the house rules people have a forum dedicated to them it should be used for that.  I'm sure the people there wouldn't appreciate me showing up and posting in every thread: "That isn't possible, it isn't in the rules."By the same token, I don't appreciate them showing up to tell me that they don't like the rules every time we try to discuss something in them.</blockquote>

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