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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PenguinKing" data-source="post: 91299" data-attributes="member: 2817">You're missing a few things - like:1) The Shaman has no spell failure - he can cast in armor.2) The Shaman has more class skills and twice as many base skill points.3) The Shaman has more spell slots, once you count domain spells.4) The Shaman has spontaneous casting of cures/inflicts.5) The Shaman uses the cleric/rogue BAB.6) Shamans have a selection of minor abilities that Wizards don't - like applying their Charisma bonus to saving throws at higher levels.So, in a sense, you're right - a Wizard with the Shaman's spell list is essentially a Shaman with fewer hit points, a lower BAB, fewer spell slots, less flexible spellcasting, fewer skills and skill points, and fewer special abilities. - Sir Bob.P.S. Nih!</blockquote>