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Is the Spiked Chain Fighter really that Cheesy?
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<blockquote data-quote="TheGogmagog" data-source="post: 3573857" data-attributes="member: 27702"><p>I've played two pole-arm (quickdraw greatmace) trip-masters. They ranged from craptacular to underwhelming. First to trip you have to be facing something equal to or smaller than you and without four leggs. These were both from 5th to 8th level, and there were few chances where I had a chance to trip. It only mattered once, a small dragon, it kept him from getting full attacks and escaping. Aside from that it only came into play a half dozen other times, either an already futile fight or only slowed the opponent down a little (move action and attack of opportunity to stand). If you were in a city based mostly humanoid opponents campaign, and/or allowed all books and PRC's it <em>might</em> be as powerful as the awsome build people say. Oddly I don't see any of them here.</p><p></p><p>If you are DM and would really put this to the test, how bout a giant or other large base creature? A thri-kreen would have both large size and four leggs, that would be a trip machine.</p><p></p><p>Also as mentioned make it two of these fighers, a cleric and a warmage. Then you have a challenge. Even one thri-keen (or whatever they are called) all maxed out but standing alone shouldn't be that tough. Hmmm, another thought for an encounter; A Hydra with improved trip....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheGogmagog, post: 3573857, member: 27702"] I've played two pole-arm (quickdraw greatmace) trip-masters. They ranged from craptacular to underwhelming. First to trip you have to be facing something equal to or smaller than you and without four leggs. These were both from 5th to 8th level, and there were few chances where I had a chance to trip. It only mattered once, a small dragon, it kept him from getting full attacks and escaping. Aside from that it only came into play a half dozen other times, either an already futile fight or only slowed the opponent down a little (move action and attack of opportunity to stand). If you were in a city based mostly humanoid opponents campaign, and/or allowed all books and PRC's it [i]might[/i] be as powerful as the awsome build people say. Oddly I don't see any of them here. If you are DM and would really put this to the test, how bout a giant or other large base creature? A thri-kreen would have both large size and four leggs, that would be a trip machine. Also as mentioned make it two of these fighers, a cleric and a warmage. Then you have a challenge. Even one thri-keen (or whatever they are called) all maxed out but standing alone shouldn't be that tough. Hmmm, another thought for an encounter; A Hydra with improved trip.... [/QUOTE]
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