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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Moon-Lancer" data-source="post: 3573869" data-attributes="member: 35798">actually in a tournament i played in, a kid from my school really knew how to use her. he was a total pro. It was kind of sick to watch, but I did beat him now and again (go siegfried). the computer in my experience dosen't use ivy as good as it could be. The computers only advantage is it can counter really good (that goes for all characters the computer plays). aside from that, the computer generally doesn't know when to use the right moves. hell even i can use ivy better then the computer and i don't player her that much. now maxi, theirs one heck of a button smasher (ok so i don't know him very well). *ahem*anyway the flavor for the spiked chain can be changed. theirs also brotherhood of the wolf. It also uses a whip sword like weapon very much like ivys. and its a live action movie. so yeah... its not too impossible to visualize, and thierfor isen't cheese in my opinion. *some edits*</blockquote>