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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 4096502" data-attributes="member: 3929">As was understood. Don't have the book, though. I did see on the interweb several examples of PC Maugs that were clearly broken. As in, no racial HD and only +1 LA. Which is why I asked. Yours does not seem nearly as unreasonable as those others. I'm confident we can hash this out...Large. That's +1 LAish.Huge Stat bonus without accompanying huge penalty. Another +1 LA.Immunity to every [Mind-affecting] spell. At least +1 LA. I'd not be surprised for consensus to make it more.So that's the LA taken care of. Any thing else? Construct traits other than the aforementioned immunity? Natural Armor? Bonus to HD based on size? Immunity to Magic? SR? DR?Re-read them: ECLs and CRs don't exist in a vacuum. See also the not-CR 1/3 Goblin Fighter 10.An encounter between an enchanter and 4 low-Wisdom, low-Will save PCs is going to be more difficult than a fighter versus those same PCs because the fighter cannot exploit their weakness. An encounter with your tripmonster is going to be more difficult in an environment that prohibits ranged attacks. An EL 10 full of constructs is going to be harder for a party of rogues than an EL 10 of human guards.Do you not agree that the circumstances of the fight, and the corresponding strengths and weaknesses of the combatants, will change how hard it is for one group to defeat another? Because if you do, I fail to see why you are reluctant to apply it to your Huge MetaMind Immune-to-[Mind-affecting] Tripping machine.You had 8 AoO's and enough Strength to trip a Huge Giant. Did your other stats suffer from your focus in Dex and Str? Was the character creation of this Maug extraordinary beyond being allowed to play a Maug in the first place?I'm following this line of questioning because I believe you have presented an extraordinary case as evidence that a standard mechanic and weapon are broken. The possibility of a CR 1 monster with 1000hp and 30's for stats does not mean CRs are broken; have you considered that your experience with your Maug proves only that the mechanic can be broken instead of necessitating that it is?Also, do you often play monstrous PCs? Or are the majority of your PCs drawn from the PHB races?</blockquote>

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