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<blockquote data-quote="Elethiomel" data-source="post: 4097297" data-attributes="member: 49897">Of course..85 LA was an example figure.Stop the psychoanalysis already.No. I would not consider switching the feat an intelligent creature gets for its racial HD to have an impact on its CR.I did not make this build to prove that the spiked chain was broken. I wanted to provide the OP with a build that would maximise the cheese of the spiked chain by using other cheese along with it.The weapon-finesse spiked chain wielder can't use his spiked chain to trip very well, so the guisarme comparison is void. Yes, this means that one of the many options the spiked chain gives is mutually exclusive with one other option. Let me state clearly what I think is broken with the spiked chain: It allows attacks at reach-range and at nonreach-range at the same time. If you want the &quot;most broken&quot; bit, that's it right there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elethiomel, post: 4097297, member: 49897"] Of course. .85 LA was an example figure. Stop the psychoanalysis already. No. I would not consider switching the feat an intelligent creature gets for its racial HD to have an impact on its CR. I [b]did not make this build to prove that the spiked chain was broken[/b]. I wanted to provide the OP with a build that would maximise the cheese of the spiked chain by using other cheese along with it. The weapon-finesse spiked chain wielder can't use his spiked chain to trip very well, so the guisarme comparison is void. Yes, this means that one of the many options the spiked chain gives is mutually exclusive with one other option. Let me state clearly what I think is broken with the spiked chain: It allows attacks at reach-range and at nonreach-range at the same time. If you want the "most broken" bit, that's it right there. [/QUOTE]

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