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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tetsubo" data-source="post: 4100618" data-attributes="member: 1250">The illustration in the original 3.0 PHB caused me to laugh out loud. Literally. Only later did I begin to dislike it for mechanical reasons.By making it Piercing/Bludgeoning you avoid the underwater use issue. If you were to describe it as a two-handed weapon that does not allow a 1.5 Strength bonus that would help. It should also be noted that while it could be used at both 5' and 10' ranges but not in the same round. I'd probably make it 1d6 damage. It is rather small and light. Your idea of a Spiked Manrikigusari has merit.Both the crossbow and longbow are highly effective weapons. One just takes decades to master. The Spiked Chain *as depicted in the PHB* is useless. It does not have the lethality or usefulness of a longbow. Longbows decided who ruled kingdoms. Spiked Chains just cut cheese.Your idea for the Spiked Manrikigusari  is good. For a martial weapon that does many of the Spiked Chains roles (and is far more realistic) look at the Heavy Flail. For an exotic chain weapon, file off the description of the Dire Flail. Describe it as a chain with heavy weights at either end. Essentially a Heavy Manriki-gusari. Replace the plain weights with spiked ones and you have a Piercing/Bludgeoning version. A "holy water sprinkler" with style...All of these ideas (yours and mine) are better than how the Spiked Chain was presented in the PHB. I don't have an issue with exotic weapons. There are literally tons of examples of them in the real world. Which is one of the reasons I got so annoyed when the game designers came up with such a silly idea. It was like they stepped over a dollar to pick up a dime. If they had invested a $100 in weapon reference books, this could have been avoided. I figure I have $1000+ invested in such reference books... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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